Discussion:
New webcams
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Erik Baas
2010-11-19 00:22:20 UTC
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I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's. There's a
total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails, and most of them
with live preview.

See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
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Erik.
Erik Baas
2010-11-19 15:19:15 UTC
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Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's. There's a
total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails, and most of them
with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Maar dan dus in het Nederlands, sorry !
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Erik.
Ermin de Winkel
2010-11-20 00:56:31 UTC
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Post by Erik Baas
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's. There's a
total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails, and most of them
with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Maar dan dus in het Nederlands, sorry !
Geeft niks, Lees ook Engels. En anders is er altijd nog een woordenboek!
Ermin
Erik Baas
2010-11-20 01:30:21 UTC
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Post by Ermin de Winkel
Post by Erik Baas
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's. There's a
total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails, and most of them
with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Maar dan dus in het Nederlands, sorry !
Geeft niks, Lees ook Engels. En anders is er altijd nog een woordenboek!
Het probleem is dat ik in één (Engelstalige) groep thumbnails mag
toevoegen, maar in vier andere (2 x Engels, 2 x Nederlands) niet, en
soms is één verkeerde klik genoeg... ;-)

P.S.: Sindsdien alweer vier webcams toegevoegd, mede dankzij tips van
vaste kijkers. :-)
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Erik.
Willy Otgens
2010-11-20 09:49:05 UTC
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Hoi Erik

Het ziet er mooi uit.
Ook nog bedankt voor de berichten die jij plaatst.
Ik heb er veel aan, en vind het ook leuk.
Nogmaals Dank.

Groeten Willy
Post by Erik Baas
Post by Ermin de Winkel
Post by Erik Baas
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's. There's a
total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails, and most of them
with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Maar dan dus in het Nederlands, sorry !
Geeft niks, Lees ook Engels. En anders is er altijd nog een woordenboek!
Het probleem is dat ik in één (Engelstalige) groep thumbnails mag
toevoegen, maar in vier andere (2 x Engels, 2 x Nederlands) niet, en soms
is één verkeerde klik genoeg... ;-)
P.S.: Sindsdien alweer vier webcams toegevoegd, mede dankzij tips van
vaste kijkers. :-)
--
Erik.
Ken Harrison
2010-11-26 07:07:28 UTC
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Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's. There's a
total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails, and most of them
with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the plural
of metro (metro's[sic]) does?

IMWTK
David Nebenzahl
2010-11-26 07:33:45 UTC
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Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails,
and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)
Erik Baas
2010-11-26 12:18:29 UTC
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Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails,
and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Sorry, I'll try to get it right next time. ;-)
--
Erik.
Wolf K
2010-11-26 15:10:14 UTC
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Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails,
and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Sorry, I'll try to get it right next time. ;-)
FWIW, the only plural apostrophe that _may_ be acceptable is the one
that some people use to refer to a decade: the 90's, the 30's etc. I
don't agree with this, but it's OK in the style books of several major
newspapers.

The apostrophe rules are very simple:

a) Use to indicate missing letters: it's = it is, isn't = is not, etc.

b) never use to indicate a plural;

c) use to indicate possessive case (genetive) of nouns and names;
c1) 's for singular nouns; s' for plural nouns; 's for irregular plural
nouns.

d) never use to indicate possessive of pronouns.

wolf k.

PS. TBird/Mozllia dictionary did not know "genetive." Tells you
something....
John K. Herreshoff
2010-11-26 15:23:50 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails,
and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Sorry, I'll try to get it right next time. ;-)
FWIW, the only plural apostrophe that _may_ be acceptable is the one
that some people use to refer to a decade: the 90's, the 30's etc. I
don't agree with this, but it's OK in the style books of several major
newspapers.
a) Use to indicate missing letters: it's = it is, isn't = is not, etc.
b) never use to indicate a plural;
c) use to indicate possessive case (genetive) of nouns and names;
c1) 's for singular nouns; s' for plural nouns; 's for irregular plural
nouns.
d) never use to indicate possessive of pronouns.
wolf k.
PS. TBird/Mozllia dictionary did not know "genetive." Tells you
something....
This is an unusual use of an apostrophe:

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/acronyms.html


And the genitive case: I guess that Latin has it, and I found out that
German had it in 1958 :-) It should exist in English, but it's called
possessive, and it's watered down...

John.
--
Using the Cubic at home.
Wolf K
2010-11-26 15:50:04 UTC
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Post by John K. Herreshoff
Post by Wolf K
FWIW, the only plural apostrophe that _may_ be acceptable is the one
that some people use to refer to a decade: the 90's, the 30's etc. I
don't agree with this, but it's OK in the style books of several major
newspapers.
a) Use to indicate missing letters: it's = it is, isn't = is not, etc.
b) never use to indicate a plural;
c) use to indicate possessive case (genetive) of nouns and names;
c1) 's for singular nouns; s' for plural nouns; 's for irregular plural
nouns.
d) never use to indicate possessive of pronouns.
wolf k.
PS. TBird/Mozllia dictionary did not know "genetive." Tells you
something....
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/acronyms.html
I don't like plural 's on acronyms, etc, but I'll put up with them. ;-)
Post by John K. Herreshoff
And the genitive case: I guess that Latin has it, and I found out that
German had it in 1958 :-) It should exist in English, but it's called
possessive, and it's watered down...
John.
The "genetive" case indicates "belonging to a group or set, being of the
same or similar kind." The root -gn- or -kn- means "type" or "kind" (and
shows up in that word as kin-). It's one of the most prolific
Indo-Germanic (IE) roots. 's is a true genetive. It's called
"possessive" because a personal name in the genetive case does indicate
possession, usually.

You can express anything in any language. What differentiates languages
is what _must_ be expressed every time you say something. In IE
languages you must express number, and you must express "case" for every
noun/pronoun. But case may be expressed via the form of the noun, or via
an adverbial phrase. You must also express gender (although in English
the gender system is very much simplified.) Recent psycho-linguistic
experiments indicate that what must be expressed in a language affects
attitudes and feelings. It may affect thought and perception, too.

"Imagination" is in part the ability to say things differently than you
usually say them.

wolf k.
Envo
2010-11-26 21:48:02 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with
thumbnails,
and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Sorry, I'll try to get it right next time. ;-)
FWIW, the only plural apostrophe that _may_ be acceptable is the one
that some people use to refer to a decade: the 90's, the 30's etc. I
don't agree with this, but it's OK in the style books of several
major newspapers.
a) Use to indicate missing letters: it's = it is, isn't = is not, etc.
b) never use to indicate a plural;
c) use to indicate possessive case (genetive) of nouns and names;
c1) 's for singular nouns; s' for plural nouns; 's for irregular
plural nouns.
d) never use to indicate possessive of pronouns.
wolf k.
PS. TBird/Mozllia dictionary did not know "genetive." Tells you
something....
That you can't spell it properly - 'genitive'.

Envo
Wolf K
2010-11-26 22:08:44 UTC
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[...]
Post by Envo
Post by Wolf K
PS. TBird/Mozllia dictionary did not know "genetive." Tells you
something....
That you can't spell it properly - 'genitive'.
Envo
You're right, my mistake.

My neurons are beginning to seize up. Like my knees. ;-)

wolf k.
Rene
2010-11-26 12:21:26 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails,
and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
David Nebenzahl
2010-11-27 01:41:11 UTC
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Post by Rene
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with
thumbnails, and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
Why the apostrophe in "tram's" in Dutch?
--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)
David Nebenzahl
2010-11-27 01:43:47 UTC
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Post by Rene
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with
thumbnails, and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
Why the apostrophe in "metro's" (but none in "trams") in Dutch?
--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)
Rene
2010-11-27 11:39:51 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:43:47 -0800, David Nebenzahl
Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Rene
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
Post by David Nebenzahl
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's.
There's a total of 359 links on my site now, all with
thumbnails, and most of them with live preview.
See http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new
Why does the plural of tram have no apostrophe ("trams") but the
plural of metro (metro's[sic]) does?
IMWTK
It doesn't. At least it *shouldn't*. ("Greengrocer's apostrophe")
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
Why the apostrophe in "metro's" (but none in "trams") in Dutch?
In Dutch nouns ending on a,e,i,o,u or y preceeded by a consonant get
the apostrophe in plural. This has to do with maintaining the correct
pronunciation. "Metro" does, "tram" doesn't....
Ken Harrison
2010-11-27 05:08:33 UTC
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Post by Rene
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
<snip>
Post by Rene
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
That's very interesting. Can you explain to me why that is the case? I
like to hear of the differences in language custom. From the standpoint
of a native English speaker, Dutch seems a very different language from
any of those we customarily study in our schools (if, indeed, any of our
students actually DO study another language).:-(

Ken
Rene
2010-11-27 11:42:16 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:08:33 -0800, Ken Harrison
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Rene
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
<snip>
Post by Rene
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
That's very interesting. Can you explain to me why that is the case?
See my other reply please
I
Post by Ken Harrison
like to hear of the differences in language custom. From the standpoint
of a native English speaker, Dutch seems a very different language from
any of those we customarily study in our schools (if, indeed, any of our
students actually DO study another language).:-(
It's often said Dutch language/grammar has more exceptions then
rules.:)
John K. Herreshoff
2010-11-27 13:54:16 UTC
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Post by Rene
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:08:33 -0800, Ken Harrison
Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Rene
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
<snip>
Post by Rene
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
That's very interesting. Can you explain to me why that is the case?
See my other reply please
I
Post by Ken Harrison
like to hear of the differences in language custom. From the standpoint
of a native English speaker, Dutch seems a very different language from
any of those we customarily study in our schools (if, indeed, any of our
students actually DO study another language).:-(
It's often said Dutch language/grammar has more exceptions then
rules.:)
Goodness me! That sounds a lot like english, especially spelling rules.

John.
--
Using the Cubic at home.
Ken Harrison
2010-11-28 05:44:54 UTC
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On 11/27/2010 5:54 AM, John K. Herreshoff wrote:
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Post by John K. Herreshoff
Goodness me! That sounds a lot like english, especially spelling rules.
I'm humored by the misspelling in your sentence, John.<vbg>

Ken
Rein
2010-11-28 15:32:01 UTC
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"Ken Harrison" schreef in bericht news:-***@earthlink.com...

On 11/27/2010 5:54 AM, John K. Herreshoff wrote:
<snip>
Post by John K. Herreshoff
Goodness me! That sounds a lot like english, especially spelling rules.
I'm humored by the misspelling in your sentence, John.<vbg>

Ken


En ik dacht eindelijk ze kletsen iets meer over
treintjes,maar..................................................

Rein
Erik Baas
2010-11-28 23:19:54 UTC
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Post by Rein
Post by Ken Harrison
Goodness me! That sounds a lot like english, especially spelling rules.
I'm humored by the misspelling in your sentence, John.<vbg>
En ik dacht eindelijk ze kletsen iets meer over
treintjes,maar..................................................
Tja, sorry... het hele gedoe begon toen ik een apostrof vergat (of juist
niet, hoe was het nou ?)... Enfin, zulke crosspostings doe ik dus maar
niet meer.
--
Erik.
Martin Borsje
2010-11-27 21:39:36 UTC
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Post by Ken Harrison
Post by Rene
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:33:45 -0800, David Nebenzahl
<snip>
Post by Rene
Erik used the way it's written in Dutch, prob. he is from NL like me.
(and in Dutch it should be "trams" and "metro's" indeed;))
That's very interesting. Can you explain to me why that is the case? I like
to hear of the differences in language custom. From the standpoint of a
native English speaker, Dutch seems a very different language from any of
those we customarily study in our schools (if, indeed, any of our students
actually DO study another language).:-(
Ken
Funny enough we pronounce 'tram' as trem' with the 'e' as the 'e' in
Edinburg, but alas.

The plural of 'tram' is 'trams' as we can no pronounce 'trams'
otherwise than 'trams' with 'a' sounding as 'e' like Edinburgh

Metro is different; as the 'o' is at the end of the word we pronouce
this as an open 'o' like the 'o' in 'opera'

Normally, if we put a consonant behind a letter 'o' that ends the
syllable, like the word 'bos' (= forest) we pronounce the 'o' as the
'o' in the english word 'odd'.

So 'metros' we would pronounce as 'may-tross'.

ZTo pronounce 'metro's' as 'may-troos' with the 'oo' as in 'over' we
add the apostrophe.

So just for pronunciation reasons.

Martin
Erik Baas
2010-12-12 01:29:59 UTC
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Post by Erik Baas
I found some new webcams showing trains, trams and/or metro's. There's a
total of 359 links on my site now, all with thumbnails, and most of them
with live preview.
Sinds de vorige keer, ruim 3 weken geleden, zijn er weer 22 webcams aan
de lijst toegevoegd: station Finnentrop (de) en de overweg daarbij,
streaming video van station Arnhem, drie met trams in Rusland, twee met
trams in duitsland, en een spoorlijn langs de kust ergens in Japan
(herkent iemand de locatie misschien ?).

De bestuurbare webcam op de Dam in Amsterdam (van Madame Tussaud) werkt
weer, de cam van de Rügensche BäderBahn in Göhren is ook weer actief
(beide op een nieuwe URL).

Zie http://www.nsesoftware.nl/erikbaas/webcams/?sel=new en verder.
--
Erik.
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